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The Lawfare Podcast

Hosted by Benjamin Wittes & Tyler McBrien & Anna Bower & Scott R. Anderson & Kevin Frazier

Daily national security law from the Lawfare team. Cyber is one strand among many.

Interview Daily 30–60 min· ~3100 episodes· Started 2012
Level
Practitioner, assumes you work in or study security
Status
Active, last episode
Who's behind it
Non-profit, The Lawfare Institute sourceListener-supported, with an ad-free supporter edition.
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Editorial take

Be clear about what this is: a daily national security law and policy show, not a cybersecurity podcast. Most episodes cover courts, the executive branch, intelligence, wars and foreign policy. It earns a place here because when Lawfare does cyber, it is unusually rigorous: Volt Typhoon and the law of critical infrastructure intrusions, the SEC's case against SolarWinds and its CISO, Rob Joyce from NSA, and book-length treatments of ransomware as a national security problem. Hosts rotate across Lawfare's editors and fellows, episodes run 35 to 60 minutes with some 90 minute court roundups, and the feed also carries the weekly Rational Security panel and weekend archive replays. Use it selectively: search the archive for cyber episodes rather than subscribing to everything.

Last hand-checked 2026-09-30.

Listen if you …

  • work on security policy, compliance or legal risk and need the legal reasoning behind cyber rules
  • want serious analysis of state hacking, spyware and surveillance law
  • are comfortable picking a few cyber episodes from a very large general feed

Skip if you …

  • you want security-only content, most episodes are about courts, politics and foreign policy
  • you want technical detail on attacks, the focus is law and policy

Start with these 3 episodes

  1. 01

    Lawfare Daily: The Shadowy World of Ransomware with Professor Anja Shortland

    · 34 min · Beginner

    An accessible way in: a ransomware history told through economics and policy, no legal background needed.

  2. 02

    Timothy Edgar and Paul Rosenzweig on the Volt Typhoon Cyber Intrusion

    · 55 min · Practitioner

    Lawfare's cyber coverage at its best: what a state intrusion into critical infrastructure means legally.

  3. 03

    Lawfare Daily: Shoba Pillay and Jennifer Lee on the Dismissal of Charges Against the SolarWinds Corporation and Timothy Brown

    · 36 min · Practitioner

    Essential for anyone heading toward a CISO role: what the SEC case meant for personal liability.

About the show

The Lawfare Podcast is published by the Lawfare Institute and features members of the Lawfare editorial team interviewing policymakers, scholars, journalists and each other on national security law and policy. The main strand is Lawfare Daily; the same feed also carries Rational Security, Lawfare Live, Lawfare Archive replays and the AI policy series Scaling Laws.

The feed goes back to January 2012 and holds over 3,000 episodes. Cybersecurity is a recurring topic, covering state hacking, ransomware, spyware, encryption, FISA Section 702 and cyber regulation.

Notable guests

  • Rob Joyce
  • Christopher Wray
  • Anne Neuberger
  • Avril Haines
  • Matt Olsen
  • Dmitri Alperovitch
  • Thomas Rid
  • Nicole Perlroth
  • Ben Buchanan
  • Max Smeets

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